Cheap Chinese Scooters - Buyers Guide

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Cheap Chinese scooters are here to stay, there is no denying it unfortunately, especially with oil & petrol prices rising the way they are, so why should you buy a cheap Chinese scooter, and why should you not buy one?

As a scooter mechanic, I’ve worked on pretty much everything at one time or another, from Piaggio’s, Peugeot’s, Yamaha’s, and right down to the cheap and nasty crap like the first generation Chinese scooters.

As far as I’m aware, Piaggio actually released the first big selling 4 stroke 50cc scooter with the Vespa ET4 50cc, over 100mpg compared to 65-70mpg for it’s 2 stroke counterpart definitely made it a winner among commuters, but with it’s high European build quality and all metal monocoque chassis, it wasn’t the cheapest scooter on the market, and this was the way the market was heading: 16 year old lads still wanted scooters with the best handling and performance (a niche pretty much dominated by the Piaggio NRG, Gilera Runner and Yamaha Aerox, in that order), and older people trading in their cars for cheap transport wanted something just that; cheap.

The problem is as I see it, most car owners see their £6-7000 car (at the cheap end) as a big machine, they then look at a scooter and thing “oh it’s only a scooter” and wonder why it costs £1600+ for the top of the range Italian liquid cooled 50cc’s, not realising that just as much development goes into these as modern cars get, right down to race track testing.  So with this in mind, the car owner trots off to find the cheapest scooter available, and usually finds the cheap Chinese scooters being sold en-mass through the internet and eBay.

So what’s wrong with them?

Admittedly, they have got a lot better recently; the first generation Chinese scooters had the worst build quality imaginable, with lots breaking by the time they got to the end of the street with faulty electronics etc, but they have improved a fair bit in later years.

I think Chinese scooters are perfectly acceptable forms of transport, as long as you see them for what they are; cheap transport with good fuel economy.  If you pay £500 for a brand new scooter, don’t expect Italian quality because you simply will not get it.  The way I see them is, if you buy one you can use it everyday for a year, not service it and throw it away, and it’s only cost you £500, or £1.37 a day, which is less than what a bus to and from work would cost you, let alone a car.

Since the Chinese scooters are so cheap and don’t have a regulated dealer network, you also tend to find that most Chinese scooter so called “dealers” are either one man bands selling them from his garden shed on eBay, or a car dealer in to make a quick buck, neither of which have any specific scooter experience or significant backup.  In the early days of Chinese scooters, this was a major problem as when they went wrong, their “suppliers” didn’t carry any spares and most places ended up having to order in extra Chinese scooters, just to break them for spares for warranty work, as by law all new and second hand vehicles require a 6 month parts and labour warranty if sold by a dealer, unless sold at auction, which is why so many where sold on eBay originally, because it got the Chinese scooter dealers out of any liability.

Nowadays, the spares backup isn’t so much of a problem, as there are now a few major importers and stockists, as well as increased quality and multiple Chinese scooters being sold under different brands, sharing the same spares and parts.

As a former mechanic, my biggest problem with Chinese scooters was the fact they weren’t sold by proper dealers, and these people never got paid a PDI fee like the bigger franchises do.  The PDI is a Pre-Delivery Inspection, but it is also meant to include a strip down and copper greasing off all the bolts for later servicing in the scooters life.  Although not essential, if you’ve ever had to remove an M6 low quality mild steel bolt after a year of picking up road crap and rusting, you’ll know why they need greasing from new!  At my work I was trained to do every major bolt that was used regularly in servicing plus a few others before the scooters even turned a wheel, so when it came back for servicing, our life was easier and the customers life was easier if they needed work doing, the costs for drilling out rusted and snapped bolts tend to be a lot.

Due to the fact that most cheap Chinese scooters don’t have any of this done from new, just battery acid and air in the tyres (if that!), most mechanics and scooter dealerships won’t touch them with a barge pole.

If you’re planning on getting one of these cheaper Chinese scooters, it might be worth ringing around your local mechanics and telling them you already have one, will they work on it?  If it’s no from everyone, I wouldn’t bother getting one unless you’re fairly mechanically able yourself.

So can you get decent Chinese scooters?

Actually, yes you can now, but with varying prices, because as quality goes up, so does price unfortunately.  They’ll all do around 40mph when derestricted, but 30mph as per the law when restricted.
The 3 main groups of Chinese scooter are:

The traditional cheap Chinese scooter (Sukida, Lifan, Skygo, Baotian, Zhongyu, Kinroad, Jianshe, Jialing, Jinlun, Xinghue, Skyjet etc you get the idea), all the 50cc scooters are pretty much the same bike (Baotian QT50)

These are the original Chinese scooters sold by many, and in my opinion, are perfectly good bikes providing you use them for what they are; cheap transport.  Like I said before, if you buy one and use it for a year then throw it away, it’ll still cost you less than your bus fairs would.

Generally as well, most of these are bought unregistered, and you have to pay a £65 registration fee and £15 tax on top of this (along with number plate and petrol), which is something to factor into the cost of buying one too.

Pros:  Cheap transport, excellent fuel economy


Cons:  Not PDI’d properly most the time, no official spares supplier, hidden costs.

Peugeot VClick

This is the same as above believe it or not, just the normal Baotian Chinese scooter but rebranded under Peugeot.  This retails at £829 according to the official Peugeot website, and this includes a PDI, Petrol & Number Plate.  However, this doesn’t include Registration fee and Tax, so add another £80 to this for on the road price.

Pros:  Proper dealer network and PDI with a full 2 year warranty

Cons:  Still the same cheap Chinese scooter as the originals, nothing to stop you buying one and just fitted Peugeot parts to it if it goes wrong.

Piaggio Zip 50cc

This is the classic Italian Piaggio Zip, but now assembled in China, even though it still uses many Italian parts.  The price is normally £1099 OTR, but is currently reduced to £999 OTR.  The £999 cost is exactly that - £999, includes PDI, Number Plate, Petrol, Tax, Registration, everything.  You just need to sort out your own insurance as with any bike, but even this Piaggio cater for by providing very good insurance rates through Piaggio Plus run by Lexham Insurance.

The Piaggio Zip’s come with a full 2 years unlimited millage parts and labour warranty, backed up by the biggest scooter dealership network in the country, with next day delivery spares if it even breaks down.

Our local CBT & Test training centre tried one of these out and were so impressed they made their entire 50cc fleet the new Piaggio Zip’s, which in my mind, really proves how good they are, considering they’re being used all day everyday during CBT’s, and my old work has never had any returned for warranty work yet either.

Pros:  Huge dealer network with next day spares backup, very reliable, top quality, top brand and will hold their money compared to other manufacturers

Cons:  Most expensive of the Chinese range, but still cheap at only £999, which includes registration and tax and everything.

My overall opinion on these bikes is, you get what you pay for, and they’ll treat you how they treat them.  If you buy the cheaper Chinese scooters, PDI them properly, and service them regularly, they’ll happily last 2 years nowadays, but after that don’t expect brilliant resale value.  If you’re not mechanically minded enough to do this yourself, the Peugeot VClick or Piaggio Zip’s are the better option, although the VClick is just a rebranded cheap Chinese scooter, so I personally don’t see the point in paying £900 after fee’s for one, considering the Zip is better quality for only £999, and will still easily sell for £5-600 after 2 years.

You’ll further save money if you’re getting one of these scooters instead of a car for commuting, they all do 100-120mpg, so the fuel savings alone will cover the cost of their purchase after 6 months or so, and if you passed your car test before February 2001, you don’t even need to take a CBT to go on the road, nor need L plates!

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18 Responses to “Cheap Chinese Scooters - Buyers Guide”

  1. Cheap Gas Scooters Says:

    This is a good write up on Chinese Scooters. I still would not advise new scooters buyers to buy anything but the established brands like Vespa, Buddy, Honda, and Yamaha. There is too much risk in getting a non established brand if you are not a scooter mechanic. It would be a challenge getting parts too.

    Best,
    Kyle Park

  2. admin Says:

    Buddy are chinese lol

  3. Omar Says:

    I am looking for a do-it- yourself guide to service a 50cc Meiduo 4 stroke chinese scooter. The speedo is at 4,000 Km. The local Yamaha scooter dealer will not do it as he has bookings six months in advance, well that is what he says anyway.

    Appreciate if you recommend a online guide, I could download. Cheers, Omar

  4. admin Says:

    A Haynes Manual is your best bet if they do one for chinese scooters (as far as I’m aware you’re is a rebranded Boatian judging by images off Google)

    If not, a 4,000km service will generally include:

    Oil + Filter Change
    Gear Hub Oil Change
    Spray on White Grease Moving Parts (i.e stand hinge, brake lever hinges, ignition barrel etc)
    Check Brake Pads
    Replace Spark Plug
    Tyre Pressures
    Wire Brush + Heat Proof Paint Exhaust

    I’m not sure on the reccommended time scale for chinese scooter servicing but your next service after this will probably need a dealer though as it’ll require valve clearences checking, along with rollers and belt checking / replacing

  5. ssab1 Says:

    I think Chinese scooters are much better than they used to be. They are not the quailty of name brand scooters but you are not paying the price either.
    As for parts go, people make the mistake of looking for parts on the internet by searching for the scooter brand instead of just searching for Chinese scooter parts. Chinese scooters are pretty much the same under the plastic. There is a great forum for scooter manuals, derestricting guides and maintenance at http://chinesescoots.forumwise.com/forum.html

  6. ridley Says:

    This is a really great write up on Chinese scooters. I’ve been researching buying one. Still not sure yet, but it seems a lot more doable than when I first started looking.

  7. Mike Says:

    Haynes does make a repair manual for these bikes. You can buy it here:
    http://www.haynes.com/products/sfID1/8/sfID2/105/productID/50

  8. raymond martin Says:

    hiya i have a baotian 50cc scooter i think it is fantastic i paid 200 pound for it on a 56 plate the parts r very cheep the only think i have had wrong with it is the rubber tyer vaulvs blow out as they were preished and my rubber drive beld went witch cost me around 30 pound to fix

  9. joe_t Says:

    hi ssab1! good to see you doing some justice for our forum! :)
    i had/ have a baotian 50, parts are so easy to get! (baotian-scooters.com) (uk)
    i get next day delivery from them, cheap and available 99% of the time. i done quite a few rebuilds on mine but i was always hot rodding her, when you use them just for commuting they can go on for around 18000km! ive known it. mine done 15000km (about half way round the world) so that isnt bad atall! if you look after them they rarely go wrong, you can get teething problems when you first get them on the road but once you sort tehm out, they go for a while with no problems :) if anyone goes into anderson and wall, theyll throw dirt on the chinese scooter name, even tho they have keeways and vclicks outside out of the crate. i dont listen to them, all theyre interested in is selling.
    chinesescooterclub.co.uk is the best place for help with any problems :)

  10. james t Says:

    My chinese scooter is a piece of crap. No warranty came with it and at 200 miles on the odometer has stopped running and after $200 repairs is now pushing oil and gas through the air filter. no one will tell many what might be wrong with it but will charge me to “take a look at it” of course at a 70$ per hour charge.
    D O N T E V E R B U Y O N E

  11. Eric Says:

    Genuine Buddy is NOT Chinese; they’re made by PGO in Taiwan. Though not all Taiwanese scooters are better than those made in mainland China, it’s definitely true for the bigger name companies: PGO, Kymco, and SYM.

    There’s also some qualitative difference between scooters made by companies based in China and those manufactured there by other companies (for example, Piaggio Zip and Kymco Agility). Overall, though, there’s a reason these are built there—it’s cheap. The Zip and Agility are probably the lowest-quality scooters sold by those companies.

    I’m not one of those “all Chinese scooters are bad” people and know some owners who are quite happy with them. But their appeal is mostly for scooter newbies (who are testing the waters, don’t want to spend for a better product or simply don’t know what they’re buying) and wrenchers who want something cheap they can mod and tune then ride like hell. And for every person who’s happy with theirs, I can probably find a few who got burned by an unscrupulous dealer who offered no service or support, a bogus warranty, or a scooter that broke down and died with less then 1,000 miles on the odometer.

  12. bunny Says:

    just bought my lad a baotian 50cc does anyone know who”ll service it around the sheffield area

  13. Joe Craven Says:

    Try a SYM if you want a highquality Taiwanese scooter. I have 3 in my family and have had excellent results and parts when I needed them.

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  15. matt Says:

    i have a kymco super 9s IT IS BRILLIANT ,, i have had it de-restricted, lighter rollers, a de-restricted variator and a tecnigas next R exhaust pipe and all of this has made it go about 55-60mph , i love it to bits , i advise ppl to get 1, if u want any more advise let me know at bfg_217@hotmail.co.uk

  16. Michael Says:

    The name is Peugeot Vclic. NOT vclick!
    On all its papers, on the Peugeot official site, on the scooter itself is writed VCLIC.

  17. higgins Says:

    I have owned a chinese scooter now for nearly 3 years (btm bt49qt-9, basically the same as a baotian) and covered 9000km so far. I have so far had to replace the speedo cable once and drive belt once. Apart from that and regular oil changes I have not spent a penny on the thing. Gets me to the train station every morning and home each evening.

    It could do with a new rear tire and some of the plastic panels(due to vandlasim) but compaired to my last piaggio zip the parts are dirt cheap and overall even if it isnt worth more than 200 quid I have still have owned a scooter for 3 years for less than 133 per year. NOT BAD!!!

    One thing i would point out is I have been luckly enough to use a mechanics who deal soley with scooters and specialise in korean, taiwanise and chinese scooters. As commented on in the article a good dealer and full PDI go a long way with any scooter. so a big thumbs up to my local dealer http://www.centralscooters.co.uk

  18. jake shemberger Says:

    I have a 2007 meiduo moped(chinease)and i havent changed the spark plug yet but im going to but my question is how long do these things tend to last it has 650 km on it and i just cleaned air intake i changed the gear oil and the motor oil and it wont start i took the spark plug out and it was alittle black but not 2 bad just wondering if this could be the big problem im kinda freakin out i just bought it for $500$ and thought it was a good idea can u please help me answer these questions

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